Episode 15

John 10:8 Shepherd vs. Thief: Listening to Jesus

John 10:8 is one of those verses that can land wrong if you skim it. Jesus uses strong language about “thieves and robbers,” and the point is not to make you cynical. The point is to make you clear.

In this episode, we slow down and talk about spiritual discernment the kind that comes from formation, not paranoia. Because a lot of what shapes us is not obviously evil. It’s subtle. It’s constant. It’s the voices we let become familiar. Hurry. Accusation. Control. Performance. Even spiritual content that sounds right, but quietly produces fear, shame, or confusion.

Jesus is teaching that His sheep learn something over time. They learn what His voice sounds like. And because of that, they stop giving access to voices that steal peace.

Formation to Transformation is a verse-by-verse worship devotional through Scripture using the World English Bible.

Question for today: What voice has been shaping you lately, and what would it look like to return your attention to Jesus?

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Formation to Transformation | A Worship Devotional

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Ryan Loche

Dr. Ryan Loche (PhD) is a worship pastor, professor, and theologian helping worship leaders and everyday disciples be formed by Scripture over time. He leads The Church Collective, a training network for worship, creative, and production leaders. Ryan’s work centers on worship as formation before expression and the slow, faithful transformation of becoming like Jesus.